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so i tried reading some new comics.... by nebezial so i tried reading some new comics.... by nebezial
i tried reading some of the new dc comics, , cause of the whole reboot, i though, hey, i'll jump in on some of that. i do love the characters in the cartoons...

and..just... damn...

see its a personal nuisance for me. i worked for years on witchblade, working hard to get the whole tna reputation out of the way. ron and i did relatively well with that

we were constantly taking shit from the people who read superhero comics, and got a crapload of condescension


and now... well.. seems like the shoe is on the other foot

because... just ... wow. there are many many amazingly well done comics, just brilliant in both artwork and writing.. but some are just... uncomfortable

i am a great believer that sexuality in comics serves a purpose, and works best when earned through character development.

it is supposed to be subservient to the story, it needs to be given a better purpose than just... hey, look sex!

so far the female characters in dc have been a bit... um...lets just say mishandled.

this is merely one man's opinion. no better nor more important than anyone else's. if you disagree that is your right.

and i hate the damn harley, arkhampromiscuousoversexualizedjailbait design

always have always will. it lacks the tongue in cheek humor, it lacks the likeability, but it replaces it with a lollipop sucking jailbait look....sorry...just..no


and for anyone who thinks themselves clever to go and point out that i'm drawing and writing sunstone, and yet i have a problem with this, i will save you the embarrassment.

sunstone is a comic ABOUT sexuality.
therefore there is sex in it

these are comics about superhero's that are saving the world on a daily basis... that is their premise...see what i'm getting at here?

oh and to explain my problem with catwoman XD

in the comics tshe often fights the same supercriminals as batman...

buut, batman is walking aroung in a boryarmor nowadays... selina... in a latex catsuit

what is the armor rating on your average catsuit?

we will ask killer croc XD




aaand fixed XD, "s"word removed thank you for turning the discussion of poor handling of female characters in comics to a discussion of semantics.. it was... pretty entertaining and in some points enlightening :)

so here is where all the confusion came from

my name is stjepan sejic and i am a croat!

hi stjepan

so , in croatia we have taken cursing and derogatory terms to a level that many would think unimaginable

it is often so crazy that some of the offensive words never quite... graduate

slutty for instance , in my country never really got to the rank where it would be used to define a woman's sexual behavior in a derogatory way.

we have about 60 far worse words for that

here word pretty much is used for a dressing style, that is ..oh lets say less than practical.

,now that you know this, i think the original intention of my message becomes clearer ...tho many never had any problems of guessing it

message was that female characters deserve more dignity in their treatment in comics...to be more than a eyecandy afterthought existing for nothing else than to hump random people without any insight to why.

i'm just saying if we have to know why a guy has a different colored suit, it would be useful to know why a female character is about to have sex with a random guy.

ultimately i found the right words i wanted to use to explain this situation

it is political correctness.

you presumed that every country has it as highly developed as the top few.

unfortunately we do not, that train is coming to my country too, but its slow moving and we put obstructions on the tracks

till then , there will probably be some confusions, so try to realize that maybe the person talking to you is not being judgmental, they just express differently because such is the norm of their country :)
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shadowsbadgirl Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I also don't like how--I'll just say it--how skanky people are wanting Harley Quinn to be in the new Arkham games.
I am a woman and I don't think that mini skirts and underbust corsets are fun to dress up in and hand out candy.
That being said for "sexy" costumes in general.
I also don't understand why sex has to be put in everything we read or watch.
can't we all just be clean and not focus on nasty dirty shows and outfits? :/
it's getting pretty gross.
and yes, I am a virgin and plan on staying that way until I am ready.
I love new and modern costume character designs in games, I just don't understand why they have be so skimpy and being forced to accept or dress that way. :facepalm::no:
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kobaltkween Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
The original TV show Harley was a truly great example from a long line of take-offs (especially animated ones) on the persona of a brilliant comedienne: Judy Holliday.  Find a movie of her, and you'll immediately hear the resemblance.  Watch her in something like Born Yesterday, and you'll see that wonderfully playful and ditsy yet fierce persona.  Not only were her works hilarious, but she was brilliant _and_ brave enough to use that same character to stand up to the House Un-American Activities Committee, and turn them all around with her answers.   They hurt her career, but couldn't pin her down well enough to fully blacklist her _or_ get her to name names.

For me, changing Harley into a totally different character, especially a more 2-dimensional one more suited for pornos than anything with a plot, is disrespectful and disappointing.  There's just _so_ much you can do with that archetype.
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TeaTimeFan Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2014  Hobbyist
Well said! I miss classic Harley so much >:c
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Sir-Talen Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Coming in late here, but I probably should point you towards one of my favorite webcomics Terinu It's a full page B&W sci-fi comic, with half the main cast female and all of them dressed decently [1] and with realistic proportions.

[1] Aside from Gwen's "Exotic Dancer Barbie" sequence, but it's treated as disturbing rather than sexy, esp the last panel.
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DaMushroom Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Ya know, I'm all for  character redesigns, because it can lead to some interesting aspects of said character that might not have been explored, and costume redesigns are great for artistic challenge and how the character functions...DC girls are losing cloths function...and cloths in general. With what Harley wears now and compared to her original-I like the original more because it showed a side of deranged innocence.

And Catwoman and Talia Al Ghul...I don't see how boobies hanging out would help them any, other than slow them down and be insanely uncomfortable.

Comic girls don't need to lose their cloths to be sexy
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MK-R Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014  New member
Exactly.
And don't be surprise if a female doesn't agree with dressing like a sket skeaze bitch for cosplay : P
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DaMushroom Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Honestly-how are those cloths suited for battle?
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MK-R Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014  New member
Without the possibility of being injured or --sorry for the bad language- but the liability of being able to be kicked between the legs? Or even just how Sonya Blade dresses?
Or with long skirts like Sailor moon or Ruby Tojo?
Over the knee or literal centimeters above the knee skirts I think are okay, because I don't like men being able to see what needs to be hidden more often.
I am tired of over sexualization with both genders overall.
And I don't get why people are trying to change the way slut is used. 
Stop being sexually disgusting and learn to keep your legs closed!

and that goes for prostitute OCs as well.
it's not fun to be around and should be stopped or changed.
Both men and a good percentage of women don't enjoy the idea.
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DaMushroom Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
It demoralizes the character; makes them less of a stand up respected and action character and into something that's kind of distracting. If you got a Harley Quinn Action figure from back when all you could see was her face, compared to now-what are you going to see more in that figure? The character, or the outfit?
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MK-R Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  New member
I think that's not only DC's goal for every female character.
I think it may be just pop culture in America :/ -headesk-
The string supported outfits which are meant to be "distracting from (name here's) male or female oppnonents" are what is now in and acceptable because of the insane, hormonal feminists who are creating a "War on Women" and pushing for a new acceptance of vulgar and tiny cloth supported clothes and they don't want to hear what they need to be hearing:
SKET (Carribean for whore, I believe so...)
They do that by changing the meaning of the word 'slut', 'whore', 'bitch', brainwashing other feminists into turning that overused and mostly accurate into a socital attribute, when, if people would just
Overall, I agree with what you just pointed out. It's sad how America is turning into becoming with shorter dresses, skirts, and skimpier and shorter and shorter shorts.
I don't know if you're female or not, doesn't matter, anyway, they aren't even selling shorts that at least cover our butt cheeks!!!!
-drinks water, rubs forehead-
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